"We've had a very bad experience also and lost a huge amount of money. We are currently busy with a case against them. Please contact us if you would like to join in "bringing them down" the way they brought others down. Even if you don't want to join, but have useful information for us or tell us your whole story, so that we can build a good solid case against them. We've send a request to Carte Blance to help us and others. Deon has phoned us for months and had all these wonderfull promises of R9000 per month per license, etc. Needless to say the whole truth was never told. It can cost you up to R30 000 per day to achieve a R300 profit. They have so much different names, who knows what is the legal one? Basfour 814, Bas4, Intellivest, IBS group, STS and then the name registered under the company number on their Bas4 letterhead is Interactive Business System Sales (a registerd private company). So, Deon, John Jacobs and Mr John Sharpe I hope all of you loose everything and more what we lost."